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Intimacy, Parenting Boys and Cancer | Bill + Kitti Murray

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Bill and Kitti Murray have been married for 40 years. Bill is a Life Coach and Kitti is the founder of Refuge Coffee. They have persevered through many challenges including a cancer diagnosis, raising four boys, and starting a coffee truck. In this episode, we are encouraged to become an expert on what refreshes our spouse, we are challenged by the reality of in sickness and health, and we see the obstacles of what it takes to launch a non-profit.


Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

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Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.