The Counseling Episode | Andre + Jeff Shinabarger

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This is a before and after recording of our FIRST marriage counseling appointment. Andre forced Jeff to go. Jeff did not want to go. Maybe you can relate with their fears and learnings before and after their counseling session.

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.


Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.